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INTERVIEW: Yves at Laurent

Unlike most of his industry contemporaries, Laurent-Perrier CEO Yves Dumont doesn’t come from a Champagne background. What he brings to the house is commercial nous and a refreshing approach, writes Patrick Schmitt

Well-mannered, softly-spoken, immaculately-dressed, one would assume Yves Dumont had spent his life in Champagne, or at least in luxury goods. In fact, his CV reads more like a list for the weekly supermarket shop with soap, biscuits, frozen veg and orange juice featuring, as he’s moved from management roles in Unilever to Nabisco, from Green Giant to Tropicana, before joining Laurent-Perrier in June 1997 as CEO. “Usually people in Champagne have come from Champagne but my background was not Champagne, it wasn’t even wine, or a family-owned business, or a French one,” he says chuckling, adding, “so I brought a fresh look at things.”
That look was not transformed into a major overhaul of Laurent-Perrier, however, a company owned by the Nonancourt family since 1939. While Dumont admits he “introduced some method and rigour, and also probably a sense of brand management, some people say I tried to maintain too much at Laurent-Perrier”.
In fact, in the 11 years he’s managed the company, he has restructured the sales and distribution strategy of Laurent-Perrier, establishing subsidiaries in the US and Belgium, while placing an emphasis on exports and premium products. He has also engineered and successfully led the IPO of Laurent-Perrier on the Paris Stock Exchange, reshaped its overall branding and visual identity and drove the acquisition of Château Malakoff, adding 30% to the raw material supply potential of the company.

Market driver
These accomplishments have been welcome additions to the healthy functioning of Laurent-Perrier, but are merely minor adjustments to the business compared to past achievements of honary chairman Bernard de Nonancourt, who “is in the office almost every day”. For example, Laurent-Perrier under Bernard’s guidance was first to market with a multi-vintage prestige cuvée – Grand Siecle (1958) – and an Ultra Brut (1976). The Champagne house was also the driver of the rosé revolution (LP rosé was launched in 1968), and, Dumont suggests, partly responsible for Champagne’s positioning as a pre-dinner drink. “The Brut NV was the first to have up to 50% Chardonnay in the blend and at the time Chardonnay was 23% of the appellation area. Bernard really broke the code by launching [Veuve Laurent-Perrier in 1949] with twice as much Chardonnay as anyone else – and because we introduced the concept of pure, elegant and not too winey Champagne we participated in one sense in making Champagne an apéritif.”

Nevertheless, while today rosé is a major part of the Champagne category; most houses have an ultra brut, and several brut NVs have a high percentage of Chardonnay in the blend, Dumont is not necessarily planning another imminent groundbreaking product launch. “We have a lot of work to implement the innovations since 1958,” he says.
In particular, he is focused on managing the existing range for greater value creation and, as part of that, the repositioning of Laurent-Perrier’s more premium Champagnes. Whatever the market, “we are pulling out of the supermarket sector with premium items such as rosé and Grand Siecle because the consumer expects to find us in the most exclusive restaurants and bars and it is very difficult to deliver 100% of the demand of let’s say The Dorchester if you are distributed everywhere.
“Also, we’ve learnt from the consumers of high quality cuvées, who tell us that the purchasing experience is almost as important as the consumption experience and that we should focus on the channels where you have a person on hand to explain and guide the consumer. Of course that’s not the case in supermarkets, but in the independent wine merchant, or those places with a sommelier.”

The repositioning will also extend to pricing as well as distribution when it comes to Laurent-Perrier rosé, Grand Siecle and Alexandra. Prices are being raised because “over time we realised we were lagging behind,” and secondly because “we are reflecting the imbalance between supply and demand in Champange which is causing an increase of grape prices of about 10%.” (The Brut NV will also be putting its prices up between 10% and 15% depending on the market, but there will be no major changes in distribution).
Interestingly, as part of this strategy, less focus is being placed on rosé in the UK, where pink Champagne is almost synomous with Laurent-Perrier, while elsewhere more emphasis is being planned for the Champagne style. “Five to six years ago we joked that if we let things go the way they are going then all the rosé we produce could be sold in the UK. Now that’s true – the demand in the UK is so much larger than what we can supply. However, we cannot sell our rosé in just one country and it has taken the emphasis away from the rest of the range.” And Dumont is keen to point out that Laurent-Perrier is “very different from others because brut NV represents a little over 60% of sales, whereas in most houses brut NV represents 90-95% of sales.”
As for the supply-demand imbalance in Champagne as a whole, Dumont is convinced it will continue. “Total supply at the highest yield is estimated at 350 million bottles and last year we sold 340m. Of course there is the project for revising and reappraising the appellation area but it is a long process that will have no effect before 2020 or even 2025.”

>Price agreement
When it comes to price increases, Dumont believes even these won’t unduly rock the Champagne boat. “What we know is that as grape prices increase, bottle prices increase and supply falls – you have a sort of rollercoaster effect which we’ve seen three times since 1950 and the last time was in the ‘90s. So you cannot discount the possibility. But today’s situation is different. Firstly we definitely have a supply-demand imbalance which we didn’t have before, and secondly we have a new agreement betweeen the houses and growers, which I think will smooth the increases and decreases – it won’t prevent prices going up, but rather than big jumps we can expect a 5-6% increase per annum.”
The agreement has several aspects, and Dumont stresses certain clauses, but in particular “the need to share value between growers and houses”. A new, longer six-year contract between the two parties will contain a “price revision clause whereby the price of the grape will be set freely at the time of the signature and won’t be discussed any more for six years but will be indexed on some value which can be chosen by the partners. This will be a composite index that will include the price of the bottles of Champagne. So if the grower is assured that the price of his grapes will follow the price of the bottles he knows he will have his share and he also knows that if the bottle price goes down the price will go down and the house will not be forced to say ‘sorry Mr grower I have to stop buying from you or I will go bankrupt, I cancel my contract’.
“I think it is very smart way of doing things and marks the entry of Champagne into the modern economic world; something that was not obvious 10 years ago when I came into the business.”
There will also be much greater grape price transparency as “contracts will have to be copied to CIVC and the CIVC wil make a statistic on what are the prices of grapes in the various regions”, he adds.

Then there’s the worsening economic climate to consider. Are the current Champagne growth forecasts still realistic? For Dumont, “They are becoming realistic but they were not so. What was said about two years ago was that we cannot afford more than 2% growth per annum for the next 10 years and one year we had 4.5% and another year we had 5.3% so in two years we’ve had four years of that growth. Now everyone thinks this year could be flat or slightly declining – but we need to make up for the excess growth we’ve had for the last two years.
Dumont even suggests the Champenois should celebrate a dip in volume sales. “If in a year we meet and the Champagne market has gone down 2% we should be happy, otherwise the price of grapes is going to go up much more than we planned. And then that’s when Champagne will be in trouble because if the price of grapes goes too high, not all Champagne houses have the distribution network, the image, the quality, the strength to put prices up or to bear two years of bad sales – some houses are very much in debt. So it would be terrible for Champagne if there was too much growth. It’s like a drug – it looks good, but it’s not good at all.” In short, Dumont adds, “The volume expectation should stay at 2% and nothing more, which means some stability now.”

Competition friendly
Finally, Dumont does not appear unduly concerned by competition from other sparkling wines as Champagne prices itself higher. “I wouldn’t call it competition,” he begins, “because for me competition is at similar price levels. So as Champagne goes up in price and stays the same in volume and as demand for sparkling wine grows of course a void must be filled. And I think it’s good that quality sparkling wine from France, New Zealand, California, South Africa or even England fills the gap – it’s normal and can become positive as those who start with sparkling get educated and some will turn to Champagne. I see sparkling wines as a step to Champagne rather than a competitor.”

So what does concern the man happy to see a slowdown in sales of Champagne and an increase in sparkling wine consumption? Nothing but the odd weakness in Laurent-Perrier. “Certainly I would like to be stronger in the USA, but at the moment this market is not exciting in terms of volume growth or currency.” He also admits “We are not satisfied with our performance on vintage which might date to a time when sales people said Laurent-Perrier was not a vintage company, but an assemblage one.”
Overall, however, his confidence stems from the knowledge that Laurent-Perrier has retained its quality credentials. “What creates problems for companies is not just getting into financial imbalances but falling morale – losing faith in the product. Laurent-Perrier has certainly not suffered from this, and the changes we are now making are another step forward – the pride of Laurent-Perrier must be reflected in the price and the way we distribute the product.”

Yves Dumont on brand Champagne
“Champagne is a very different world,” according to Yves Dumont, “because it belongs to three different worlds.
“The first of these is a consumption product, the second is wine and the third is a luxury product. If you take into account only one aspect or even two and you forget about the third you have it wrong – you must take into account all three although they can sometimes be contradictory.”
Explaining further, Dumont says, “What makes it a mass consumption product is that brut NV is a relatively low unit price and you can find it in supermarkets. What makes it a wine is that you have a cellarmaster and you have oenologists and MWs interested in it. What makes it a luxury product are the exceptional cuvées certain houses have. And this is a little contradictory – for instance you wouldn’t find jewellery in supermarkets.

So there’s no other activity that is like Champagne – that belongs to these three different worlds. They are usually completely apart and in this case they mix.”

CV: Yves Dumont
• 1997: Joined Laurent-Perrier as chief executive officer
• 1990-1995: CEO of Tropicana Europe
• 1984-1990: CEO of Green Giant Europe
• 1973-1979: Management positions at Biscuits Belin (Nabisco Group)
• Prior to 1973: Unilever
• Yves Dumont is a graduate of France’s business school, HEC (Hautes Etudes Commerciales)
• Dumont is a board member of both the CIVC, the official Champagne trade association, and of the FEVS, the French Federation of Wine & Spirits Exporters.
• He is also a member of the Champagne House Union Council (UMC) and a dignitary of the Ordre des Coteaux de Champagne, the oldest Champagne fraternity, of which he was commandeur from 2003 to 2005

db ©  June 2008

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